92-038

Response October 30, 1992

 

 

Request

December 4, 1992

 

Mr. Joe Pacheco

Commissioner

Utah State Tax Commission

Heber M. Wells Building

160 East Third South

Salt Lake City, Utah 84134

 

RE:XXXXX

 

Dear Joe:

 

Enclosed is a letter which I have previously provided to the Commission. This letter now has inserted a statement which I believe encompasses our agreement on the XXXXX matter. I would appreciate your signing and returning a copy of the letter so that it might be attached to the composite return which XXXXX files.

 

Should you have questions or require further clarification, please let me know.

 

Very truly yours,

 

XXXXX

 

XXXXX, Partner


November 24, 1992

 

Mr. Joe B. Pacheco, Commissioner

Utah State Tax Commission

160 East Third South

Salt Lake City, Utah 84134

 

RE: Composite Partnership Refund Return

 

Dear Joe:

 

In response to your letter dated October 30, 1992, I am writing to request a redetermination of your conclusion in that letter. I will present additional materials to you which should, in my opinion, make is possible for the Tax Commission to rule favorably upon the request made earlier to allow composite refund filing.

 

Very truly yours,

 

XXXXX

 

XXXXX, Partner


November 24, 1992

 

Commissioners

Utah State Tax Commission

160 East Third South

Salt Lake City, Utah

 

RE: Composite Partner

 

Dear Sirs:

 

I am writing to provide additional information with regard to the question of the Tax Commission allowing a composite partnership refund return based on facts previously submitted. By way of background, I had written to the Utah State Tax Commission in a letter dated XXXXX, requesting that the Commission allow a composite refund return for certain tiered partnerships which have over 2,000 partners in partnerships with Utah interests. The Tax Commission ruled unfavorably in response to our request in a letter dated XXXXX. You agreed to hear this matter in an informal hearing scheduled for XXXXX.

 

I am now writing to provide further information for your consideration in this matter. All of the partners which would be included in the composite refund return are non-resident alien partners. They are located outside of the United States. None of the partners have any other Utah-sourced income other than the income from the identified partnerships. Our XXXXX office has power of attorney for all limited partners. None of the partners would individually file a return to claim a credit which would be included on a composite return. Therefore, there would be no possibility of a double credit being claimed. The partnerships which have Utah-sourced income and foreign partners include the following entities:XXXXX (U.S.A.); XXXXX; XXXXX; XXXXX; and XXXXX. If a composite filing is allowed, limited partners would be identified. Additionally, it should be noted that the mineral properties have been sold which would make it unnecessary to grant a request of this nature in the future.

 

Your favorable consideration of this matter would be very much appreciated.

 

Very truly yours,

 

XXXXX

 

XXXXX, Partner


November 24, 1992

 

Commissioners

Utah State Tax Commission

160 East Third South

Salt Lake City, Utah 84

 

RE: Composite Partner

 

Dear Sirs:

 

I am writing to provide additional information with regard to the question of the Tax Commission allowing a composite partnership refund return based on facts previously submitted. By way of background, I had written to the Utah State Tax Commission in a letter dated XXXXX, requesting that the Commission allow a composite refund return for certain tiered partnerships which have over 2,000 partners in partnerships with Utah interests. The Tax Commission ruled unfavorably in response to our request in a letter dated XXXXX. You agreed to hear this matter in an informal hearing scheduled for XXXXX.

 

I am now writing to provide further information for your consideration in this matter. All of the partners which would be included in the composite refund return are non-resident alien partners. They are located outside of the United States. None of the partners have any other Utah-sourced income other than the income from the identified partnerships. Our XXXXX office has power of attorney for all limited partners. None of the partners would individually file a return to claim a credit which would be included on a composite return. Therefore, there would be no possibility of a double credit being claimed. The partnerships which have Utah-sourced income and foreign partners include the following entities: XXXXX (U.S.A.); XXXXX; XXXXX; XXXXX; XXXXX; XXXXX; and XXXXX. If a composite filing is allowed, limited partners would be identified. Additionally, it should be noted that the mineral properties have been sold which would make it unnecessary to grant a request of this nature in the future.

 

Your favorable consideration of this matter would be very much appreciated.

 

Very truly yours,

 

XXXXX

 

XXXXX, Partner

 

The Utah State Tax Commission will allow a refund composite filing in the circumstances described in this letter. As a condition, XXXXX, agrees to provide the names of the limited partners; a representation that the limited partners have no other Utah-sourced income; and a representation that no limited partner will file a return claiming a credit. We will allow refund composite returns to be filed for the XXXXX calendar year as well as the XXXXX calendar year. A refund return for XXXXX will be accepted provided XXXXX, represents no individual limited partner would have had a tax-due return. We also agree that no penalties will be imposed for the late filing of the XXXXX calendar year.

 

FOR THE UTAH STATE TAX COMMISSION

 

Joe B. Pacheco 12/8/92


October 30, 1992

 

XXXXX, Partner

 

RE: Requested Refund on Composite Partnership Return

 

Dear XXXXX:

 

Your recent request for an advisory opinion concerning a waiver of the requirement of R865-9-13I that precludes nonresident partners from being included in composite partnership returns if they are entitled to mineral production withholding credits, 675R's, or other credits was referred to the Auditing Division for their analysis. The division's recommendations are as follows:

 

l. The basic intent of the Mineral Production Withholding tax is to insure that recipients of mineral production proceeds are paying tax on income derived from Utah sources.

 

This is accomplished by each corporation or individual filing returns and properly reporting Utah income and applicable 675R credits. If the individual or corporation fails to file then Utah retains the 4% as withheld as an approximation of the tax due.

 

2. Utah State Tax Commission Administrative Rule R865-9-13I(C) allows partnerships to file composite returns on behalf of nonresident partners that meet certain conditions. R865-9-13I does not require or dictate that composite returns must be filed on behalf of nonresident partners.

 

3. The intent of composite filing for nonresident partners is to facilitate the payment of tax due to the State of Utah on behalf of nonresident partners with no other Utah sources of income or credits that should apply individually. It was not intended that a composite return be a means to facilitate refunds to partnerships.

 

4. It is our opinion that a refund to a partnership is not allowed by statute or rule.

 

Based upon the facts presented in your letter, we are in agreement with the Auditing Division's recommendations. Obviously, if there are deviations from these facts, this opinion may be negated.

 

If you do not agree with this determination, you may appeal to the Tax Commission for a formal hearing. The results of that hearing would constitute a declaratory judgment and be appealable to the Utah State Supreme Court. A Notice of Appeal Rights and copy of the Utah Taxpayer Bill of Rights are attached.

 

For the Commission,

 

Joe B. Pacheco,

Commissioner


October 21, 1992

 

Mr. Joe Pacheco

Utah State Tax Commission

160 East Third South

Salt Lake City, Utah 84134

 

Dear Joe:

 

I am writing to inquire as to the status of our request to file a block return. A copy of our previous correspondence is enclosed. Could you please respond as the due date for the return date is approaching.

 

Your prompt attention to this matter would be appreciated. If you have questions, please call.

 

Very truly yours,

 

XXXXX

 

XXXXX, Partner


September 8, 1992

 

Joseph B. Pacheco, Commissioner

Utah State Tax Commission

160 East Third South

Salt Lake City, Utah 84134

 

Dear Joe:

 

In line with our conversation I am writing to request an advisory opinion from the Utah State Tax Commission regarding the following situation.

 

A client in our XXXXX office has several tiered partnerships with investments in real estate and oil and gas interests throughout the United States. The partnerships have over 2,000 partners involved in the partnerships with Utah interests. Our XXXXX office is jointly responsible for the completion of the limited partnership returns and also the partners federal and state tax returns. All of the investors are foreign individuals or Corporations which are predominately German. Several of the mineral partnerships held in interest in Utah property. As a result of this ownership, taxes were withheld under the Mineral Withholding Provisions by the State of Utah. The XXXXX withholding was applied to XXXXX because the mineral interest was disposed of in XXXXX. The total withholding amount for all partnerships with an interest in Utah property total $$$$$ for XXXXX and $$$$$ for XXXXX. Our office has been given Powers of Attorney for all of the limited partners. Based on the knowledge of our XXXXX office, none of the limited partners have any other interests or income which would be sourced to the State of Utah.

 

Regulation R865-9-13I specifically authorizes the filing of a composite partnership return. However, paragraph lCl(3) indicates a ". . . composite return cannot be filed if the individual nonresident partners are entitled to credits such as 675R's, agricultural off highway gas tax credits or other Utah credit, .- . ." This provision suggests that the 2,000 limited partners must each file an individual TC-40NR.

 

We specifically request that a waiver to this requirement be granted to allow the respect partnerships to file composite returns requesting appropriate refund for the excess mine withholding tax. If this request is granted, overall compliance with the tax rules in Utah will be achieved. This will ease the compliance burdens otherwise imposed on both the limit partners and the Utah State Tax Commission in processing over 2,000 returns, which would otherwise be required. Your favorable approval of this request will be very much appreciated.

 

If you have other concerns or require further information with respect to this matter, please feel free to contact the undersigned.

 

As an additional point, this matter is of some urgency as the returns are due on or before XXXXX. Accordingly, your prompt response will be very much appreciated

 

Very truly yours,

 

XXXXX, Partner